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asciilifeform: https://archive.is/kcoqj << meanwhile in heathen lulz : public list of (certain species of) wreckers in linux. ( author appears to have irc presence -- possibly can be persuaded to visit ? )
asciilifeform: http://techrights.org/2019/04/21/irc-log-27012019/ << these people even have logtron. ( quick read gives strong flavour of 'catv'... but i did not dig in detail ) ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: hola!
mp_en_viaje: the old Pantsuit guard's preferred strategy of taxing carbon dioxide output as a means of connecting socialisms across the globe under a singular Pantsuit order. << that's quite the fucking point, stalin's old dream finally came close to realisation, global socialism spearheaded by the only effectual tool it ever found : taxation.
mp_en_viaje: phf, log down ?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/that-old-story/ << Trilema -- That old story...
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema << apparently ben_vulpes 's logger also dead...
mp_en_viaje: check it out, if i wish to read the logs -- which i have to wish, unless i idle 24/7, which i currently don't -- all that's available is [http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today[Framedragger ;s site].
mp_en_viaje: i suppose we're lucky dood's workmanship is of higher quality than his attention span.
mp_en_viaje: http://archive.is/vmcAd << last archived page of btcbase, april 27th. oy vey
phf: mp_en_viaje: no it's operational, but you need to renew btcbase domain
mp_en_viaje: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20190427/#77 << there's a lot of hopeful thinking in this "change a line, compile the line, move on". i know you said "section" instead of line, but this is a cop-out : you meant the same as line, but didn't want to string-match the string line, so used a new string to mean, on one hand, every good about line or as close as possible, and on the other hand, no ill about line, whatsoever. this isn't very useful : in point of
scriba: Logged on 2019-04-27: [14:04:48] <asciilifeform> you turn on the mains, thing compiles the coupla MB of sores kept in nonvolatile. this -- runs. you go an' change a line, it recompiles that section, at same time as the cache refreshes.
mp_en_viaje: fact, ~even for well written, well designed code~ the promise you won't be stuck reccompiling the whole god damned thing every time you change a line is but a promise. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: and in shitty code, it's a guarantee, as sad experience doth inform.
mp_en_viaje: phf, ok, but this is just some random connection with random dns. seems nobody knows the new one ? how do i get it ?
mp_en_viaje: o fuck me, ~I~ need to renew it ?!
phf: yeah :)
mp_en_viaje: o god damn it.
mp_en_viaje: why didn't you say anything before!!! i can't fuckign get into that from here ;/ ☟︎
mp_en_viaje 's been facepalming with three hands.
mp_en_viaje: phf, afaik, there's a grace period, flowing supposably from when it went dark, which i assume is the 27th, be like a week ? giving me about 3-4 days to figure something out here ?
phf: so it went dark sometime around 28th, because first message on 29th is ascii complaining
mp_en_viaje: heh
phf: ah, whois says it was updated on the 29th
mp_en_viaje: i have nfi how this even happened, afaik i had everything extended before takingoff.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, ima see to it then, hopefully i can entangle this befoar it's toolate.jpg
mp_en_viaje: what fun and excitement the online world reserves one!
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile what be the ip in question ?
phf: is the registration handled through namesilo?
phf: http://104.131.72.249/log/
mp_en_viaje: phf, if memory serves.
mp_en_viaje: ty
phf: so there's a 31 day grace period, on the 5th day the domain can be bid on via auction, to be sold on the 31st. (if it's not bid on there's a 34-64 days further grace extension at $75)
mp_en_viaje: ah so ~any time in may works ? ok, ima definitely get to it by then. ☟︎
phf: https://www.namesilo.com/Support/Expiration-Process
mp_en_viaje: nice policy they have. alright.
mp_en_viaje: in other unrelated news, i very much recommend budapest to the weary traveler.
mp_en_viaje: average hotel wench so dedicated to her job, gladly will help you test the beds with her.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910118 << but hey, at least was independent cocksucker, didn't come about to suck our pricks like god ordained ; instead lived independently!!! as smart tarabostes!!! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 14:06 asciilifeform: it aint even so hard to implement ~on pc~ -- poor madman terry davis, ~had it~ . ( asciilifeform happens to think that davis read his www, but at this pt only beelzebub knows, whether read or came to the obv notion on own steam.. )
mp_en_viaje: not sucker! true smart romanian, glory be.
mp_en_viaje: i wonder how many of these ubersmart fucktards need to die, and i do mean it quite literally, terry davis is as stiff as stiff gets, that other fucktard idem, there's no poetic license here, no rhetoric figure. i wonder how many of these fucktards still have to DIE before the notion finally raises in their stupid if thick skulls that stupid infanitle shit a la http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 is ~IMPER ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:04 OriansJ: asciilifeform: Having spent time reading the log; I am less than impressed
mp_en_viaje: MISSIBLE~.
mp_en_viaje: beating women in the street with no provication may perhaps be even excused, raping random girlies picked from grammar school gun in hand could perhaps be explained, but putting up idiotic airs of "mental independence" an' "intellectual skepticism" etcetera in front of the edifice of reason is NOT FUCKING POSSIBLE. can't be done, can't pass, can't work, holy hell how hard is it.
mp_en_viaje: here i am stuck repressing everyone's perfectly legitimate tendency to put stones on the graves of the intelligent because these intelligent were in point of fact SO FUCKING STUPID as to be worse than the dumb.
mp_en_viaje: a miserable lot.
mp_en_viaje: spyked, diana_coman check this shit out : as per google trasnlate, "To understand ourselves from the beginning, what's a slut? Ehehei, the girls of the mosque, the dumb is not the shoe. ' And sucker? Hahaha. Well that sucker is who puts the shoe '. Lamuriti? Mine, we're going." is the equivalent of " ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: Ca sa ne intelegem de la bun inceput, ce-i ala un smecher ? Ehehei, fetii mosului, smecher e ala care nu pune botu'. Si fraier ? Hahaha. Pai fraier e ala care pune botu'. Lamuriti ? Mnoa, sa purcedem."
mp_en_viaje: everyone i meet seems to think "the power of technology", as embodied in ustardistan's websites, has resolved all sort and manner of ancient problems, such as translation.
mp_en_viaje: but in fact, i suspect, the solution came rather from the other direction : since they have nothing to say and nobody to say it to anyway, they've started only saying those things for which the technology works admirably well. wooden tongue v2.0.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910127 << "It hasn’t got a search." is truly withering. even in good quality scientific work of the late 1800s, with properly made indices and everything else [for the use of the, at the time still workign, british parliamentary life], i ~still~ feel bogged down. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 14:09 asciilifeform: + sequel .
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910131 << nobody's gonna buy infrastructure in latin america, gimme a break. five cents to the book dollar should it go for, there's still not going to be any buyers. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 16:59 BingoBoingo: And Petrobras fires back at the natural gas derps and Uruguay by putting all of their gas station chain up for sale, Great Victory for labor... https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/petrobras-puso-a-la-venta-sus-estaciones-de-servicio-en-el-pais-20194262343
mp_en_viaje: they're married to it and they know it.
mp_en_viaje: (incidentally, this is the reason marriage contract"
mp_en_viaje: works the way everyone knows it to work -- highly depreciating asset of little economic value [if great social service] in a very unreliable political climate.)
mp_en_viaje: !#s from:valfor
a111: 0 results for "from:valfor", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Avalfor
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910197 << /me joined. lulzily enough (but keeping to tradition), there's a name i recognize in the list. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 01:20 asciilifeform: http://techrights.org/2019/04/21/irc-log-27012019/ << these people even have logtron. ( quick read gives strong flavour of 'catv'... but i did not dig in detail )
mp_en_viaje: http://104.131.72.249/log-search?q=valfor << of course, dood never actually said anything ; i guess it's just a "research logger", keeping track of you know, terrorism or w/e.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910136 << i don't see the major impediment either fwiw. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 21:11 lobbes: I guess I don't see the problem atm with having the two branches, though I welcome being convinced/pointed-to-log-threads (I've been re-reading the threads referenced in spyked's blog, but still have to finish, so possibly not grokking some fundamental bits discussed somewhere)
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910137 << i suppose nsa could afford a few of those, for a good reason... ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 21:50 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform met with some meatspace folx who rent out time on sem & ion beam station by the hr. 'bout a hundy per hr.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-28#1910146 << this is turning into something quite like the classical stories about faith. "knock and the wall stays a wall ; but knock with faith and the mountain will move aside!" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-28 08:28 diana_coman: asciilifeform: so basically the "can't have x" is more indicative of "didn't look for it irl seriously enough"?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-28#1910153 << this should probably be documented on your blog!!! ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-28 15:23 asciilifeform: in this case, a local physics lab ( erry year they give tour to gawkers , i enjoy posing sadistic questions to the academicoolies )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-29#1910193 << oh how was georgia ? pics ? worth taking the slutharvesters over ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-29 20:21 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-18#1909042 << just came back from a week long trip through georgia, will snarf tomorrow
mp_en_viaje: i hear pretty cunts grow there.
mp_en_viaje: my oh my, logdone! woots.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/diccionariul-banacean-de-lucruri-fapte-si-locuri-imdepartate-si-inportante/ << Trilema -- Diccionariul Banacean -- de lucruri, fapte si locuri imdepartate si inportante
mp_en_viaje: aite well, ima bbl
mp_en_viaje apologizes for saying he'll be back fri and then never showing up. too much good wine here.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910244 -> bwahaha, so smecher -> slut and fetii mosului -> the girls of the mosque, it might be on to something there; but yes, wooden tongue 2.0; I keep having deja vu on this but I can't quite turn it up if indeed it was discussed previously with same conclusion. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:57 mp_en_viaje: spyked, diana_coman check this shit out : as per google trasnlate, "To understand ourselves from the beginning, what's a slut? Ehehei, the girls of the mosque, the dumb is not the shoe. ' And sucker? Hahaha. Well that sucker is who puts the shoe '. Lamuriti? Mine, we're going." is the equivalent of "
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910209 << this is a solvable problem -- given a) lang that actually supports modularization ( ada & common lisp, afaik, being the only such currently ) ; b) mandatorily compact system soft (i.e. specifically opposed to mil+ loc of liquishit c) generous public whippings for 'the dancers who are hindered by own arse' ☝︎☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:06 mp_en_viaje: fact, ~even for well written, well designed code~ the promise you won't be stuck reccompiling the whole god damned thing every time you change a line is but a promise.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 21:12 asciilifeform: a 500k-loc ( ignoring even for a moment the far greater heft of 'modern' wonders ) c/cpp proggy is, for all intents and purposes, closed-source, even if every line is published, because it is quite impossible for anyone -- even author -- to get a proper grip on its behaviour space
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910215 << iirc it is actually possible for unauthenticated third party to renew dnsisms (provided the record is unchanged) . (anyone recall how ? and did i dream this? ) ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:07 mp_en_viaje: why didn't you say anything before!!! i can't fuckign get into that from here ;/
asciilifeform brb:tea
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910238 << given that 'hunchback straightens in the grave' -- i'd expect all of'em ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:31 mp_en_viaje: i wonder how many of these ubersmart fucktards need to die, and i do mean it quite literally, terry davis is as stiff as stiff gets, that other fucktard idem, there's no poetic license here, no rhetoric figure. i wonder how many of these fucktards still have to DIE before the notion finally raises in their stupid if thick skulls that stupid infanitle shit a la http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 is ~IMPER
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910262 << if mircea_popescu invented how to turn asciilifeform's bolix dig into a snsa-able product, i'm all ears ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 10:18 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910137 << i suppose nsa could afford a few of those, for a good reason...
asciilifeform: ( as it is, asciilifeform runs it 100% from own pocket , cuz how else )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910266 << was mostly a snoar, save for that 1 lead ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 10:30 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-28#1910153 << this should probably be documented on your blog!!!
asciilifeform: i'ma defo publish the microscopies tho, when they finally happen. ( which won't be for a while, not only 0 free hands currently, but i gotta either delayer the thing with own hands or find someone whose hands grow from right place, to do it )
asciilifeform: and it'll need not only decapping but 4 or 5 layer strippings
asciilifeform: ( and, depending on how it goes, may have to happen >1ce , which is why bought spares )
asciilifeform: it aint as if 'oh this clump of transistors dissolved , i'ma simply guess what may've been there' is a viable algo.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910248 << sorta why i put in substantial sweat to make phuctor searchable ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 09:07 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910127 << "It hasn’t got a search." is truly withering. even in good quality scientific work of the late 1800s, with properly made indices and everything else [for the use of the, at the time still workign, british parliamentary life], i ~still~ feel bogged down.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 03:25 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i used a 'trigraph' index, they're O(~n log n) , if yer interested.
BingoBoingo: Apparently the CIA coup in Vzla has reached its violent stage
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/cia-stooges-venezuela-coup-gets-violent/ << Qntra -- CIA Stooge's Venezuela Coup Gets Violent
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910275 << that "girls of the mosque" has decent chances of making it into coinage. it is a harem after all, amirite. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 12:17 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910244 -> bwahaha, so smecher -> slut and fetii mosului -> the girls of the mosque, it might be on to something there; but yes, wooden tongue 2.0; I keep having deja vu on this but I can't quite turn it up if indeed it was discussed previously with same conclusion.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910277 << or so we (both) currently hope. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 14:22 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910209 << this is a solvable problem -- given a) lang that actually supports modularization ( ada & common lisp, afaik, being the only such currently ) ; b) mandatorily compact system soft (i.e. specifically opposed to mil+ loc of liquishit c) generous public whippings for 'the dancers who are hindered by own arse'
BingoBoingo waiting for noise to clear, but apparently Guaidó's folks failed to seize La Carlota airbase.
asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje
mp_en_viaje: awww
mp_en_viaje: heya alfie.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how's old europistan ?
mp_en_viaje: slutty.
mp_en_viaje: how's new swampistan ?
asciilifeform: in that short little season it has b/w the frost and the mosquitoes emerging
mp_en_viaje: lovely ?
asciilifeform: was, for coupla wks
asciilifeform: nao the usual hot/humid
mp_en_viaje: ah.
asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, asciilifeform when found http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909217 took half hr to compile an' leave it churning on a dev board. in week+ nao, did not fall down. which means possibly worth reading and genesising when asciilifeform or someone else has free hand. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 00:00 asciilifeform: in entirely unrelated heathen lulz : asciilifeform found an -- apparently working -- usb 'serial device' stack for ice40 . only eats 1/3 of the LUTs in the '8k', too.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910280 << i doubt it, seeing how you have to pay for it ; anyway, ima have this fixed by ~same time next week. sorry, best i can do atm. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 14:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910215 << iirc it is actually possible for unauthenticated third party to renew dnsisms (provided the record is unchanged) . (anyone recall how ? and did i dream this? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not sure where i got the notion. dun seem to have any corresponding knob in reality, aha
mp_en_viaje: o btw, saw the techrights discussion ?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: read some of their log even.
asciilifeform: there's a ru d00d, with at least half a brain, and buncha ???s.
asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje was in there i missed it tho
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910285 << not specifically, but i judge the pics decent blogging material. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 15:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910262 << if mircea_popescu invented how to turn asciilifeform's bolix dig into a snsa-able product, i'm all ears
asciilifeform: ( only joined the thing itself this morning )
mp_en_viaje: is the ru dood the ron fellow from the uk ?
asciilifeform: XRevan86 iirc was the nick
mp_en_viaje: ah ah
mp_en_viaje: anyway, maybe something there, kinda hard to evaluate right nao
asciilifeform: there's an atmosphere of... how does one 'безнадёга' in eng.
asciilifeform: wagner/cyanide, iguess
asciilifeform: typical of folx mired in heathendom but with some vague lick of sense.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, what do you mean you missed it ?!
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910257 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 09:18 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910197 << /me joined. lulzily enough (but keeping to tradition), there's a name i recognize in the list.
asciilifeform: they have log, but for some reason not updated in realtime
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, dood, they don't have A LOGGER.
mp_en_viaje: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/irc-log-techrights-27012019.html << this is a single fucking page, uploaded to a wordpress
mp_en_viaje: a sec.
asciilifeform looked for link to current month, may have missed
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qOfYe/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform eats..
asciilifeform: interesting : i kept waiting for the 'catv moment' but nope
asciilifeform: at least -- notyet.
asciilifeform ate.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose i should say hi again
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, in fairness, just getting a general idea of wtf is going on takes like a week.
asciilifeform: there's an activation energy barrier , of sorts, even with bright heathens, where 'waddayamean yer not in the cage with us, yer saying cage has an outside?!'
mp_en_viaje: not even that, i don't think. rather, you know, "explain this whole quantum thing" "well... first, there's the wave function. actually no, wait. first, there's the quantification, and therefore the atomic model, and besides mercury precession and consider how prettily lorenz contraction works with schroedinger equation..."
mp_en_viaje: takes a while.
asciilifeform: verily
asciilifeform: the folx who know how to sit still long enuff -- have a chance.
mp_en_viaje: something like that.
mp_en_viaje: btw alfie : tell me a russian joke.
asciilifeform: drunken idiot walks into a tram. pushes his way through the aisle, knocking over bags, etc. pronounces 'i will walk on your heads!' people grumble, move. but bald man does not move. spits on his hand, lathers up his already shining noggin. 'may you slip!'
mp_en_viaje: ahahaha
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, his was not so bad either!
asciilifeform: chukcha is ~bottomless well of lulz
asciilifeform: ameristan is misfortunate for lacking proper chukcha.
asciilifeform: (or perhaps does not lack, but lacks errything else?)
mp_en_viaje: used to be the whole blackface thing
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: afaik not really similar, was moar of a kindergarten 'point an' laff at the monkey'
mp_en_viaje: well, subtlety was never a strong point of those great plains.
asciilifeform: lol just when asciilifeform begins to think 'maybe they have clue' -- out comes the systemdism, sslism
mp_en_viaje: we shall get to the bottom of this.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mp_en_viaje http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AoJ53/?raw=true << asciilifeform's attempt, after you went, ftr.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform bbl:meat
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/04/30/peso-watch-april-2019/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Peso Watch April 2019